UserVoice vs Trello

Should you make your SaaS self-service? UserVoice vs Trello


Here at Feature Upvote, this is a question that’s intrigued us for some time. Should you make your SaaS self service? So your customers can clearly see your pricing on your website and easily try out your product for free?

OR

Should you do everything you can to get customers on a sales call with your talented sales team, who demo your product personally and agree a bespoke price?

Traditionally, SaaS companies, particularly at an enterprise level, have opted for the latter ‘high touch’ approach. However, many new entrants to the market are adopting the former approach, even with large clients.

So, which approach is best?

In this article, we look at the different approaches of UserVoice and Trello. Both companies are successful: Atlassian paid $425 million for Trello, making it Atlassian’s most expensive acquisition to date. UserVoice, meanwhile, counts companies like Microsoft among its user base.

UserVoice and Trello both also provide a product that can be used to organise customer feedback and feature requests (this is our market too, so we’re always interested in what’s going on in terms of our competitors!).

However, UserVoice and Trello onboard clients in very different ways.

Free trial or sales-led approach?

Initially, it looks like you can try UserVoice for free.

screenshot of try product for free cta

However, once you’ve entered your email you see a screen that says “Thanks for your interest. Someone from our team will be reaching out to you shortly”.

You then have a choice to watch the online product demo or take the product tour. You can’t however, actually try the product for yourself at this stage.

screenshot of our request for pricing page

In contrast, Trello invites you to create an account with no sales call. You just need to provide a name, email and password. Or you can sign up with Google.

screenshot of signup screen

Trello’s priority is to get you to try the product rather than to make contact with you. They do, however, personalise their onboarding.

screenshot of onborading screen

Main advantages of UserVoice approach:

  • Personal approach to each customer might convert at a higher rate
  • UserVoice have your email so can follow up
  • Would-be customers can still watch a demo video or take a tour

Main advantages of Trello approach:

  • Some customers prefer to try the product first rather than jump on a sales call
  • Demo videos and tours can feel quite detached – showing your product rather than telling people about it can be more effective
  • UserVoice content, about trying out the product for free, feels slightly misleading, because you can’t, without arranging it with the sales team
  • Onboarding can be ‘personalised’ to an extent

Show pricing or not?

UserVoice don’t show their pricing. They used to, however.

In mid 2016 UserVoice’s website mentioned two plans: “Basic” at $499, and “Enterprise” at “contact us”, which offered multiple products, multiple languages, and private forums.

In early 2017 a limited “Starter Bundle” was available at $199 (up to 1,000 end users who can contribute and vote). This plan seems to be no longer available.

This is the last time UserVoice openly published their pricing.

So UserVoice have made a deliberate choice not to show pricing, having experimented with this approach previously.

This has led to some frustration from would be customers. On the UserVoice forum the suggestion ‘Have a pricing page’ gathered 109 votes.

screenshot of community forum

In response, Claire Talbott, support manager at UserVoice, responded:

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts around adding a pricing page to our website. This was something we discussed at length as a company.

However, while we can relate to just wanting to get a quick price quote (we’ve all been there), we have found a straight up feature list and price, well, it’s a pretty detached experience for people interested in our product.

A feature set one person needs is different than someone at a different company. On a quick call or chat, our team can quickly learn about your needs, and tailor it vs. one size fits all.

UserVoice suggests that their approach to pricing offers a more personal and personalised approach for customers.

This must offer better results for UserVoice than the self-service ‘detached’ approach offered by other SaaS companies like Trello.

Trello don’t make it super easy to see pricing because their focus is on getting you to try out their product on the free plan. They can then upsell you, once you’ve found value in the product.

However, the footer has a pricing page for anyone who is curious (in contrast to UserVoice who don’t show pricing at all).

screenshot of Trello pricing page

Main advantages of UserVoice approach:

  • Quickly make personal contact with customer
  • Offer accurate price rather than an estimate
  • Upsell customers at the beginning of the relationship, potentially increasing customer lifetime value

Main advantages of Trello approach:

  • Quickly satisfies key customer question: how much does this cost?
  • Least friction possible for would-be customers wanting to find out about the product, and then try it out
  • Customers who find value on the free plan are more likely to convert to a paid plan or recommend Trello to their companies than if they’d never tried it

Users or business customers first?

Trello is well-known for a strategy that initially prioritised users over paying customers. In 2016 it could claim that 70% of the largest companies in the U.S. had an employee using its tools. However, very few of these Trello users were paying the company any money.

This approach began to change in around 2015. Trello launched an enterprise plan, costing an average price of $250 a year per user.

screenshot of enterprise pricing calculator

They also now encourage would-be users to approach their sales team, although it seems likely that most users would have experience of Trello boards already through the free plans.

Trello’s approach seems to basically have been about “infiltrating a company by individual user” – used with great success by Dropbox. Once you have enough (free) users in a company, then they will advocate the company-wide adoption of your product.

Our 500 million registered users are our best salespeople. They’ve spread Dropbox to their friends and brought us into their offices. Every year, millions of individual users sign up for Dropbox at work. Bottom-up adoption within organizations has been critical to our success as users increasingly choose their own tools at work. We generate over 90% of our revenue from self-serve channels — users who purchase a subscription through our app or website.

Dropbox, quoted by Michael B. Gilroy

In contrast, UserVoice’s approach has been to attract paying business customers first and foremost. It is unlikely individual members of the company would act as advocates, unless they’d worked with the product previously, perhaps in another company.

UserVoice presumably waits until someone influential enough in a company experiences the problem their product solves. They then present their solution as something that the entire company should adopt, top-down.

Main advantages of UserVoice approach:

  • Prioritise revenue
  • Only need to convince a few influential people at each company

Main advantages of Trello approach:

  • Quickly get brand recognition
  • Turn users into advocates who lobby for company-wide adoption
  • Increase revenue down the road, when you already have millions of users
  • Many users already explored your product so likely to be happy using it

Traditional vs modern approach?

It’s quite easy to see UserVoice as taking a ‘traditional’ top-down sales approach that is on its way out. Meanwhile, Trello, like many recent SaaS companies, adopts a ‘modern’ approach centred on self-service, product transparency, individual users and viral user growth.

To some extent, this is the argument made by Katryna Balboni at Appcues in her article about “The consumerization of enterprise SaaS and what it means for your product”.

For legacy B2B companies, a transition away from sales-led and marketing-led strategies is a daunting task. But to build and sell enterprise products to a modern market, embracing a product-led growth model is essential.

However, I’m not sure it’s quite that simple. I find it interesting that UserVoice have experimented with elements of a more product-led growth model, but have decided instead to focus on sales and marketing.

Certainly, trying to get users to experience an ‘ah ha!’ moment within 14-30 days while using complex and customisable software is probably quite challenging. A sales-led approach might seem easier.

Also, the exciting ‘users first’ hyper-growth model clearly doesn’t work for everyone. CEO of Evernote Ian Small recently noted:

“When we were a movement, we weren’t a business.”

Evernote expects to reach positive cash flow this year.

Here at Feature Upvote, we’ve opted for the self-service approach. However, our price point is relatively low (from $39/month), we know that our customers can find value in our product within our 30 day free trial, and our company meetings begin: “This company is meant to be low stress!”. So it was an easy choice for us.

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